Califorina ... you lucky people you. Super Hybrid Cool Cars

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:09 pm

I've been keeping a watch on the designs for super MPG efficient plug in hybrids. There are a couple that will be on the market sometime next year and beyond. The annoying thing. Califorina only. I hate you all, in a completely selfish jealous sort of way.

Aptera has a three wheeled two seater (side by side) that has enough room for a surfboard in the cargo area. Should be out in 2009 but to Califorina residents only.

Persu Mobility formerly Venture Vehicles is working on a three wheeled two seater (one behind the other) that tilts like a mortocycle and can go 100 MPH. Won't be out for two years at best and even then starting only in Califorina.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:27 pm

That's really strange.

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:27 am

Doesn't Calif have really stringent emissions laws? Kinda makes sense to trial stuff there since from memory the law punishes manufacturers that don't sell enough green cars. Or I'm on some kind of crack.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:39 pm

Yes, California has more stringent laws on vehicle emissions.

It also has more lenient laws regarding the sale of vehicles.

-Crissa

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:27 am

There is also an additional reason: Both vehicles are basically a type of vehicle which could be called an "enclosed motorcycle" (even the ones that has side by side seating) and California Law has a helmet waver if the motorcycle has a enclosure so that you don't fall out of it when it tips over.

But I think it's that green is hot there.

shau · Post by **shau** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:19 am

They first one I don't much care for. The second one is absolutely awesome.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:01 am

The second one is already out with a sports car engine in Europe as the Carver One. Getting a car company started in the US takes alot of work, as there is little support for the creation of competition.

-Crissa

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:19 am

Kranke scheiss.

Eh, I'm actually in favor of #1. In vibrant green, Buck Rogers silver, or gloss black would look nice.
I'd expect it to hover, though.

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:06 am

The first one does look like it should hover and have a pair of screaming jet engines attached. That'd probably undo the environmental plusses though.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Well, we already have these guys on the road around here. There's a green one I keep getting in traffic with, must be from the yuppie part of the neighborhood.

-Crissa

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:10 pm

Crissa wrote:The second one is already out with a sports car engine in Europe as the Carver One. Getting a car company started in the US takes alot of work, as there is little support for the creation of competition.

-Crissa

Yes the basic pivot system comes from them. Unfortunately not only it isn't "green" (as the original idea for an all E or a Plug in Hybrid) it's not "Americanized." I think as is it would not be approved in the US. There doesn't appear to be much of a push to get it into Canada either.

The fact is that in Hybrid technology we are once again back to Square 0.(Square 1 ... dream on.) The "American Prius" plant is now mothballed. The Chevy Volt will never go online because the factory to build the electric engines will never be finished. Third party vendors are finding battery technology so pathetic that they will all go bankrupt long before the working prototypes are out the door.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:12 pm

Pathetic... As in, no one will sell them these batteries which have been patented and tested?

I'm not sure how not 'green' a car with a higher gas mileage than the average car (let alone sports car) in the US needs to be.

-Crissa

ckafrica · Post by **ckafrica** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:44 am

Crissa wrote:Well, we already have these guys on the road around here. There's a green one I keep getting in traffic with, must be from the yuppie part of the neighborhood.

-Crissa

I'm not a gear-head in any way but that is a seriously ugly car.

the_taken · Post by **the_taken** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:29 pm

ckafrica wrote:
Crissa wrote:Well, we already have these guys on the road around here. There's a green one I keep getting in traffic with, must be from the yuppie part of the neighborhood.

-Crissa
I'm not a gear-head in any way but that is a seriously ugly car.

Agreed.

Battery powered cars won't be appearing on Canadian markets, not with current power cell technology anyway. Our glacial temperatures chemically ruin batteries, and winter's when you really want to be driving in a warm car.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:08 pm

ckafrica wrote:
Crissa wrote:Well, we already have these guys on the road around here. There's a green one I keep getting in traffic with, must be from the yuppie part of the neighborhood.

-Crissa
I'm not a gear-head in any way but that is a seriously ugly car.

I like their slogan "Laugh your way past the pumps"

cause, you know, everyone else is going to be laughing at your car...

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:08 pm

Now this is definitely an interesting car. If I only had that fifteen years ago when I lived in Key West. Oh well.

Count Arioch the 28th · Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:36 pm

Normally, i dismiss along these lines, but when I see that electric car, I'm seeing something definitely phallic in the design. I don't want to drive a car that looks like a penis...

Right now, I'm saving up to buy a diesel vehicle, and convert it to vegetable oil. Granted, it's not perfect, but I'm limited in what I can do here. (Although the vehicle I own doesn't do too bad on fuel, it gets a touch over 30 mpg.)

cthulhu · Post by **cthulhu** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:38 pm

I'm more impressed that the Honda FCX Clarity using the Hydrogen fuel cell is available in California. That car can slide in neatly and replace current car's pretty much regardless of usage patterns. Still won't work properly for Semi trailers and stuff, but it's considerable progress!

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:12 am

Also required for SPACE CARS OF THE FUTURE:

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:37 am

sigma999 wrote:

Oh great. You had to remind me of the first season of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (Erin Gray was hot to this newly high school graduate back in '79)

Now I will have to respond with Twiki's famous line
"Bidi-Bidi-Bidi"

As oppsed to the female version Tina who used to say
"Boodi-Boodi-Boodi"

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:42 pm

tzor wrote:Oh great. You had to remind me of the first season of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (Erin Gray was hot to this newly high school graduate back in '79)

I saw some of it in reruns by the mid 80s but my 'formative years' were mostly Star Trek:TNG, Lost In Space, and Babylon 5...

Thought it was BEEDY BEEDY? Oh well. Phonics.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:21 am

I got the "Bidi" from a couple of web sources including Wiki. It really was too rapid to give it the hard "E" vowel target. Most people often repeat it slower and thus you get a hard "E." I have a friend who always says it that way, but then again if you say it that way it sounds like my last name.

Calibron · Post by **Calibron** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:10 am

tzor wrote:As oppsed to the female version Tina who used to say
"Boodi-Boodi-Boodi"

rockin' evrywhere

Oh, jeez, now I hate myself.